{"id":2265,"date":"2012-11-07T14:09:45","date_gmt":"2012-11-07T14:09:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ophiropt.com\/blog\/laser-measurement\/?p=2265"},"modified":"2025-08-28T08:16:44","modified_gmt":"2025-08-28T08:16:44","slug":"quiet-i-cant-hear-the-movie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ophiropt.com\/blog\/quiet-i-cant-hear-the-movie\/","title":{"rendered":"Quiet! I Can\u2019t Hear the Movie"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Imagine trying to watch a movie while a third of the theater is chatting away. Would you sit and enjoy the movie thinking, \u201cWell at least most of the audience is quiet\u201d? Of course not, it\u2019s clearly noisy!\u00a0 But that\u2019s essentially what one does when using RMS noise instead of 3-sigma to choose a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ophiropt.com\/en\/c\/power-meters\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">laser measurement sensor<\/a>. Wait, weren\u2019t we talking about movies?\u00a0 Yes. No. Let me explain.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Noise is an intrinsically random phenomenon. It follows, therefore, that we cannot state an absolute noise threshold. Instead, we get a Gaussian or bell-shaped distribution, which shows the probability of different values of noise.\u00a0 We could just state the average noise (\u03bc), but for a wide bell, this could be far off from what actually happens much of the time. The root mean square (RMS) method is a standard which says that the noise will be within the range of \u00b1\u03c3 68% of the time, as can be seen in the graph below. This is equivalent to saying that the noise will be outside that range 32% of the time.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/From-Wikipedia_68_95_99_7-Rule.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2267 lazyload\" title=\"From Wikipedia: 68-95-99.7 Rule\" data-src=\"\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/From-Wikipedia_68_95_99_7-Rule.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"175\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 350px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 350\/175;\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Many laser measurement companies use RMS as the standard to set the stated minimum measurable power. It is true that at a power equal to the RMS noise, you will be able to measure <em>something<\/em>. You will be able to know that there is a signal. However, since the signal is the same level as the noise, you will not be able to measure in any meaningful way how much it is.<\/p>\n<p>At <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ophiropt.com\/en\/laser-measurement\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ophir<\/a>, however, we don\u2019t just give the customer enough information so that if he has an eye for detail and knows what to look for, he\u2019ll understand the product\u2019s capabilities. We know that when someone is looking for an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ophiropt.com\/en\/c\/power-meters\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ophir sensor<\/a>, they expect the highest standards of quality and precision. As such, we set the minimum measurable power to 20 times the noise level. Furthermore, in calculating this, we use the 3 \u03c3 value for the noise where only 0.2% of the noise is outside that level. Thus, the Ophir standard for minimum measurable power is 60 times as stringent as some other companies!<\/p>\n<p>So, would you go to a movie where 32% of the people are talking? Probably not. What about 0.2%? Well, it\u2019s not perfect, but there\u2019s always going to be that one guy that won\u2019t shut up. If the world were perfect, there would be 100% accuracy without any noise. Until then, Ophir will continue to strive to give you specifications that you can rely on without reading the fine print.<\/p>\n<p><em>You might also like to read:\u00a0<a title=\"How to determine the lowest power your sensor can measure?\" href=\"\/?p=1155\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">How to determine the lowest power your sensor can measure?<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Imagine trying to watch a movie while a third of the theater is chatting away. 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